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Monday, April 28, 2008



Harvest of Stars




John Scalzi has harvested a bushel of one-star Amazon reviews of his books, and thrown down a challenge to other writers:
Post your one-star (or otherwise negative) Amazon reviews, if you have them, and you probably do. Oh, go on. Own your one-star reviews, man. And then, you know. Get past them. If you’re lucky, some of them might actually be fun to read.
Charlie Stross has stepped up to the plate.

My turn:

The Star Fraction
'The storyline was very badly developed with nothing properly explained. The plot totally incomprehensible and the characters shallow in the extreme. Avoid at all costs.'
'His writing style is juvenile with rushed plotlines, very poor characterisations (especially of women) and a propensity for moving the plot in very unexpected directions that I can only assume came from reading too many Joe Haldeman novels. ... If you are a 30-something billy no mates working in IT then you'll love this book, but for the rest of us , these books show that being a mate of Iain banks does not make you a writer.'
'The most interesting character was a gun; the gun didn't get enough lines.'
The Cassini Division
'a mishmash of poorly-conceived and ill-developed ideas. The most startling one to me was that genocide is A-OK, as long as it's done by the right people to further socialism. ... I wish I had used the time I spent with this book to do something more enjoyable, like clean up those oil spots on my garage floor.'
'I think I'll have to go back to the remaining Terry Pratchet or Aaron Elkinson's I've yet too read. Idealism has its place, unfortunately it just doesn't cut it with sci-fi.'
'Lotta gratuitist drunkin' sex. Silly and sophomoric ideas and dialogue. Ammoral people and actions. This is just a bad book, written poorly and confusingly.'
'the future utopia is an unlikeable place filled with unlikeable people doing unlikeable things. In the end, one finds the Texas-inspired New Mars a much more appealing place than the hivelike utopia the main character tries hard to defend. ... I threw this book away without reading the last 40 pages. Oh yes, and I'm never going to trust a Salon.com book review ever again.
The Sky Road
'If this book did not have a cover and I was asked what genre it belonged to, I would have said "romance". It is sappy and slow with very transparent characters and ultimately not believable. ... If you like books with crisp plots and lots of ideas, then look for something else.'
Cosmonaut Keep
'If publishers were serious about their claim that the best style is one that is not noticed, Ken MacLeod would never have been published. ... Cosmonaut Keep is a Herculean effort, in which MacLeod assures that the audience is always conscious of his effort. ... If, as the cover proclaims, MacLeod represents a SF revolution unto himself, the genre is dead.'
'What happened Ken? Where did the characterisation go? Where is the grit and realism? Please go back to writing adult SF.'
Dark Light
'If you're interested in how socialism works or the benefits of different styles of democracy, read this book. If you are looking for characters confused by their gender identity (are you a man or a woman? It depends on your actions), you may like this book. If you want interesting SCI FI, however, steer clear.
Engine City
'choppy, episodic writing, with some of the chapters reading as though they have been lifted from drafts for short stories ... I also have problems with Macleod's science (I'll pass over his unconvincing politics).'
'The first book of this trilogy was an improvement on his previous writing, putting him almost at the same level at the earlier (weaker) books of Iain M Banks. By the second book he's slipped into the middle tier of writers, the third book sometimes reads like a satire of the first two.'
Newton's Wake
'I'm giving the book two stars instead of one because its imbecilic vision is tolerably well executed.'
'The characters were annoying. The obscure plot was annoying. The sodding gags were annoying. I thought you couldn't get more daft than pot-smoking aliens. You did.'
Learning the World
'only the aliens have much personality, and even then, not much: they seem like fictional versions of MacLeod and his pub-frequenting Scottish political chit-chat buddies (the same set that appear in every single novel MacLeod has ever written) - the only difference is these guys have wings, and don't actually live in Scotland, just a place that resembles it... MacLeod is either past him prime, or just loafing, and he shouldn't be rewarded with your hard-earned dollars for this disappointment.'
'I found this title very hard work to finish. I found this title very hard work to begin.'
The Execution Channel
'By the time a reader is one-third of the way through the book, he should be able to at least have an idea of what is going on and know who some of the characters are. But you won't get that here. I have moved on to better things, and you probably should, too.'
'Typical USA bashing from a liberal European SciFi author.

The storyline is that a Scotland military base gets nuked, and some "strange going's on" before the nuking were witnessed by a bunch of leftist wackos hanging around the base. But, in reality, who would bother with nuking Scotland, and who cares as far as this story goes?'
I was surprised to find how bracing (and amusing) it is to do this. Go for it, guys and gals! Pick up that Scalzi space-gauntlet. It may not do much for your sales, but it's good for the soul.

36 Comments:

So the question is... what do we read once we've read all those book? Can you recommend something?

Typical USA bashing from a liberal European SciFi author.

Gah! Did (s)he not read the book?!

... all the revolutions in Britain and America had been for nothing, that America had been for nothing: that dismayed her.

A really affecting moment, in my view. And a great book overall, Ken; what an ending!

On the subject of 'leftist wackos', I'd be interested to know if the character of 'Mad Jack Armitage' was based on a real person or persons.

While I have to admit that I wasn't crazy about Dark Light (I gave it about 3 stars), I find it amusing how many reviewers simply didn't get it. The people who ragged on Ellen May Ngwethu's "immorality" didn't see that that was the whole point.

I think that's one of the things I genuinely enjoy about your novels, Mr. MacLeod; the characters aren't nice, model human beings, but rather imperfect, slightly twisted, sometimes naive or immoral individuals and that their immoral, obnoxious, naive or twisted actions are the whole point.

My understanding of Ellen May's 'robust' attitude to the post-humans on Jupiter was that this was the only way to save the human race from being genocided by these 'cool and unsympathetic intelligences'.

Those who didn't like their characters flawed probably too much trash by Heinlein in their no-doubt misspent youths. Now there was a writer with no feel for psychological or moral nuance and complexity.

Starship Troopers was okay, though.

Ugh. Reading this has probably finished me off as a prospective novelist. Seeing these monkeys flinging their crap at the bars is very reminiscent of reading Student Teacher Evaluations when I taught undergraduates at a four-year university:

Everything going on well enough, until I get to the open-ended comment section at the end. Some of the comments left me wondering if they had ever attended the class I had taught.

Oddly enough, I would do something similar to what you are doing here. I would take copies of the written comments pages (all anonymous), and get a group of friends together over _many_ pints, and let them read. Being the only professor in the room, I said, "No Quarter. Have at it." By the halfway point, the readers had adopted character voices, with the rest of the gang improvising beat-box backing tracks, barnyard noises, etc.

Sod the monkeys, Ken. Keep up the great work (Oink! Moo!)


Mike Nomad

Ouch!

I've thoroughly enjoyed every one of your novels I've ever read, Star Fraction probably more than any other (except maybe Cosmonaut Keep). I have to admit that throwaway line about the talking gun was pretty good, though.

Something is amiss. Those people couldn't have read the same books I did.

Somebody started a thread on a messageboard I post on asking about Ken's politics after he read the Execution Channel, one thing most commenters seemed to have in common was confusing the politics of the characters with those of the writer.

http://www.meanwhileatthebar.org/bar/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=17747

How can someone incapable of spelling "drunken" correctly manage to spell "sophomoric"?

If theres one thing I've learnt since I joined a writers group and started getting critted by people who know what they are doing, it is that different people will read the same series of words to mean different things. They will respond to a story in different ways. It was kind of weird once to manage to split the group with a story. Some thought it was ok, needed a bit of work here and there. The others didn't like it much.

I have to agree a little bit about "Newton's wake", I did find the characters a bit annoying. When it first came out someone described it as weegie gangsters in space, and I thought "no way am I reading that." Someone eventually persuaded me to give it a go, and it is rather good. I wonder how the plot was obscure though. I thought it was fine, but then some people seem to want to know what is going to happen before they open the book. They should just go back to reading E E Smith then. mjzg

If theres one thing I've learnt since I joined a writers group and started getting critted by people who know what they are doing, it is that different people will read the same series of words to mean different things. They will respond to a story in different ways. It was kind of weird once to manage to split the group with a story. Some thought it was ok, needed a bit of work here and there. The others didn't like it much.

I have to agree a little bit about "Newton's wake", I did find the characters a bit annoying. When it first came out someone described it as weegie gangsters in space, and I thought "no way am I reading that." Someone eventually persuaded me to give it a go, and it is rather good. I wonder how the plot was obscure though. I thought it was fine, but then some people seem to want to know what is going to happen before they open the book. They should just go back to reading E E Smith then. mjzg

It is true, though, that the gun didn't get enough lines. But who isn't a sucker for chatty weaponry?

The gun didn't have enough lines, or at least not enough of the right lines. Only Jon Courtnay Grimwood gives sentient guns the right number of the right lines.

On The Star Fraction, after my Dad borrowed my copy without asking me he noted that the "hero" had died 2/3rds through, which came as a suprise to him. Not good, not bad, but different.

I'll also note that my introduction to SF was partially through my Dad's Doc Smith books at the age of 9; I don't remember what I expected when I opened them, but it certainly wasn't what they contained.

Max, I'd recommend Stross, Banks, Alastair Reynolds, Peter F. Hamilton, Jon Courtnay Grimwood, Justina Robson ... and lots of others. Oh, and John Scalzi!

D.J.P. O'Kane - Mad Jack Armitage isn't based on a real person, but I may have encountered the occasional person almost as eccentric around the antiwar movement and/or the Left. One or two, maybe. Or three or four. Um.

These reviews made me want to swing a two-by-four around wildly in a public space.

I love how one person complains that your female characters suck, and then another one complains that there's too much exploration of gender. I know I should have some witty thing to say here but all I can come up with is ASSHATS.

One of the reasons I like your books is that there are a lot of interesting female characters, and human relationships are driving the action as much as technologies/political thought experiments are. Plus I love the characters in Newton's Wake so grumble grumble grumble.

Oh man I think I just engaged in late-night fanwankery.

Clarke award announced tonight I see Ken - are you feeling confidant? Of the 3 shortlisted books I have read Execution Channel is easily the best. They do have a habit of giving it to "lit'ry" works though, of which a few are nominated.

I have to sheepishly admit to agreeing a little bit with the reviews of Learning the World. I still think it's a good read - it's just that the denouement, while interesting, didn't quite justify the 'first contact' cliches which went before.

After reading Stross' blog and now this, it just confirms my belief that there are shmucks out there who get their jollies writing bad reviews about books they haven't read. Sure every one reads things differently, but get the details right!

"Idealism has its place,unfortunately it just doesn't cut it with sci-fi.'"

HUH? So where does it belong?

'Lotta gratuitist drunkin' sex...written poorly and confusingly.'

Hoohoo. I can't stop crying over this one, my dogs are lookin' at me all funny. Gratuitist. Hee. Hoo.

Aren't the Amazon 1-star reviews the easiest to brush off? They are often cartoonishly thoughtless. What about the 2-star reviews? I would think that is where the real pain starts.

Some of the chaff inevitably hits the target, but still... it was so nice to discover a writer who maneged to denounce the social democrat cop-out at the onset of the first world war as the death the soul of socialism. In this day and age, and all.

It is one of those literary moments which will stay with you.

Mat Danaher - if you can ask that guy who says he lived in the squat to get in touch, I'd be very grateful.

JDC - true, so true.

I'm watching a TV special on 9/11, right now and I keep coming back to something you wrote 14 years ago, Mr. MacLeod; Jon Wilde's Conspiracy Theory of History. It's not that it's particularly comforting, it's just that it explains a lot more than the alternatives to think that 'Yes, the Government is made up of money-grubbing, greedy bastards who're mostly self-interested, but that they're far too self-interested and corrupt to organize such a complicated and long-term conspiracy as is being bandied about.'

I have to thank you for that, Mr. MacLeod.

I have to agree with Steven Alleyn. I read 'The Stone Canal' when I was in Sixth Form. Wilde's take on conspiracy theories stuck with me and helped me right through my degree, all the 9/11 shit and on into my postgraduate study of international relations.

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Wilde's counter-conspiracy theory of history was (if I remember rightly) that a surprising number of historical events can be understood as the activity of conspiracy theorists. I'm glad to hear it's been of use to anyone!

LOL! I've read the Stone Canal 5 times and I'd understood it as "there is no conspiracy," although, in context, that makes sense.

Okay, I just read through that bit again and I see that I just forgot the meat of it. But yeah, it still makes sense. =)

The explanation of Wilde's theory is in The Star Fraction. But hey, I'm seriously touched that you've read The Stone Canal five times ...

I find it a very pleasant read - I usually pick it up when I find my politicians are being a little bit too restrictive (like when the smoking ban came into effect, for example).

Also, I've spoken about it to you before, of course, but I'm writing a novel which has a lot to do with nanotech resurrection and I find that the Stone Canal and the Cassini Division, along with Richard Morgan's Altered Carbon, help quite a bit as far as inspiration is concerned.

Thanks, by the way - you have been more of a help than you can know =)

Ken I'm the 'guy who says he lived in the squat' with Julian, Joe ,Kate, Shirko et al

Steve B.

Steve - great to hear from you! Let's take it to email: ken at libertaria dot demon dot co dot uk.

Just like to say I've enjoyed al;l Ken Macleod's books. Makes a change to have hard SF with a leftist viewpoint.

Will drop you a line Ken.

Steve

I love reading Ken MacLeod's books as well, and my favourite remains The Star Fraction, every couple of months I usually make a point to read it

I like the ideas in the novels and the vision, which doesn't seem that far fetched these days.

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